1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,400 Why did you come here? 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,700 It is now two and a half years since I came here. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:14,000 For a job,for work, to earn money, this is why I came here. 4 00:00:14,100 --> 00:00:16,000 How many years ago? 5 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:19,000 Two and a half years. 6 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:24,700 We came here for money. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,700 There was money back there too but here I can earn more in little time. 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,500 One person can earn Rs 2000 - 3000. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,200 In the village? 10 00:00:34,300 --> 00:00:37,200 In the village getting a job is not so easy. 11 00:00:37,300 --> 00:00:41,200 To get a government job you need a lot of qualifications, 12 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:47,200 backing, money, everything. We do not have this. 13 00:00:47,300 --> 00:00:51,200 What kind of jobs can you get in the village? If there is no government job? 14 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:54,500 If you cannot get a government job, in the village there are no companies. 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,800 What can you do there - some work in farms or in houses. 16 00:00:59,900 --> 00:01:02,900 It is not permanent. It is temporary. 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,900 You work for one day and then sit around for a week. This is not right. 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,300 Nazrul? 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,400 I came in 2000. I have been here for 9 years. 20 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:16,400 I too came to earn a little. 21 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:23,000 First I was small. Now I am grown up so I should earn a little more. 22 00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:28,000 I think I will not stay long here. I will go back to my village. 23 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:31,000 It is better in the village than here. Here no one respects you. 24 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:35,300 In Haryana, Gurgaon, if a Bengali makes a mistake they get beaten up. 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,300 We cannot live nicely or easily here. 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,300 So I do not like it very much here - in Haryana, in Gurgaon. 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,200 Why do they abuse you? 28 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:50,100 Because they are like that. 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Even 9 years ago? 30 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:54,000 Yes, 9 years ago it was even worse. 31 00:01:54,100 --> 00:02:00,600 It was even more before. Now they have the money - so it is less. 32 00:02:00,700 --> 00:02:02,600 So you are here with your parents? 33 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:04,600 Yes. 34 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:06,700 What did your parents do in the village? 35 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,100 In the village what else could they do? They did farming. 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,700 Do you still have land? - Yes. 37 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,800 You haven't sold it? - No.. 38 00:02:15,900 --> 00:02:23,100 So after coming here, how did you get the first room, the first job? 39 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,600 When I came first, I came with a friend. 40 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:37,000 He used to be here, then he went to the village and brought me with him. 41 00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:41,100 First I stayed with him. It takes time to find a good job. 42 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,000 I found a job after two - three days. 43 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:44,500 What was your first job? 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,000 It was a company. A small one. A guest house. 45 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:50,900 To clean there? 46 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,100 Yes, cleaning in the guest house. 47 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,800 So it took 3 days? 48 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:56,500 Yes, after two-three days. 49 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,500 This was fast. 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,500 Yes, I found work fast because my friend took me. 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,500 He had already spoken with the people 52 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,400 that his friend would come and they should employ him. 53 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:08,400 Is your friend also from the village? 54 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:11,900 Yes, he also came from my village. 55 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,600 And Nazrul? 56 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:21,100 When I came, as I was small, there was no work to be found. 57 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:28,900 That time, I was 10 years old, and people did not give work to small kids. 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,900 So I stayed at home. Papa and mummy went to work. 59 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Did you parents know anybody before coming here? 60 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:38,100 No. my mother's brother came first. 61 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,900 He was my uncle in the village, and we came with him. 62 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,800 So we used to stay at home and sit and eat. 63 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:53,900 When we first came to Haryana, there were no big flats. 64 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:00,200 It was like a forest. And we too lived in shacks. We did not have a flat. 65 00:04:00,300 --> 00:04:05,700 Now we have a flat. Gurgaon has become such a nice city. 66 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:11,700 It was not so nice before. There weren't many roads. 67 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,700 Now there are many roads, and too many cars. 68 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,200 It was not so much before. They were poor and very bastardly. 69 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:20,700 What was your parents' first job? 70 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:27,200 My parents went to the village some days ago and have returned, and will go again. 71 00:04:27,300 --> 00:04:35,700 You father did not have a job. What kind of work did he get? 72 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,600 Cleaning. 73 00:04:38,700 --> 00:04:43,100 What differences did you notice, as compared with the village? 74 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:49,300 There is a great difference, because there are no big buildings in the village, 75 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:57,300 no huge markets, shopping malls, cars, many people 76 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,500 - there are also not so many people in the village. 77 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,300 Because there are fields in the village. There is one house here, another there. Small houses. 78 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:12,300 In the village there is not so much smell, not so many cars, not so many roads. 79 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,100 I have come to Gurgaon for the first time in my life. 80 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,500 When I came here, I had not been to such a big town. 81 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,500 I thought I would get lost. I did not know what I would say if someone spoke to me. 82 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,000 That time I did not speak any Hindi, only Bangla. 83 00:05:30,100 --> 00:05:36,800 If somebody asked, "What is your name?" I used to think, "What should I say?" 84 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:40,700 Because I am a Bengali. My language is Bangla. 85 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,700 Now I do not have any difficulties. 86 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,700 Before I had many difficulties. Because I came alone. 87 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,700 I had no parents, no relatives here. 88 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:56,700 All the other Bengalis who are here have some relative, 89 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,900 but I until now, I do not have any relative - only friends. No relative by blood. 90 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:09,400 Here the habits are a little bad, because the Bengalis drink a lot, 91 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:16,400 quarrel with their wives and do not talk to each other with respect. 92 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:20,900 How did you like the city? 93 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:32,400 If there is one vacancy here, there are ten young men who want to have it. 94 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:38,600 So what can you do? So which one of the 10 will get the job? 95 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:42,100 So there is always this danger about jobs, a lot of difficulty. 96 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,900 So now the jobs are in danger. Take the cleaning job. 97 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,300 How much salary do we get? Rs 3000-4000. What can you do with Rs 3000-4000? 98 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:58,400 Nothing. We have so many expenses. Just the rent for one room is Rs. 1500. 99 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:05,700 You speak Hindi and Bangla, - can you work in a call center with that? 100 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:13,000 No. Because to work in a call centre, the first thing you need is qualifications. 101 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:16,900 And the qualifications that you need, I don't have them. 102 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,400 What do you mean by qualification? 103 00:07:18,500 --> 00:07:25,000 It means education. You need at least a Bachelor. 104 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:29,400 And the BA should be in English Honours. 105 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:34,100 But there was no English in my village. 106 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,000 There is no Hindi, either. Only Bangla. We learn Hindi after coming here. 107 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,000 What are the differences between working in a factory and the work in a guest house? 108 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:46,800 There is a big difference between a guest house and a factory. 109 00:07:46,900 --> 00:07:47,800 What is it? 110 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:53,200 The work in a guest house is a little easy. You don't have to work that hard. 111 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:58,700 We work in an air conditioned room not in the heat. 112 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,800 We can work freely. Nobody is there to watch. 113 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:10,500 Factories are full of the noise of the machines and there are many people. 114 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,300 So it is difficult. 115 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:20,300 There are no difficulties in a guest house. Because there are few people in a huge space. 116 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:27,300 In a space where there are 100 people, it is hot and difficult. So it is inconvenient in a factory. 117 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,300 Are there promotion prospects in a guest house? 118 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,300 The rank above us, that of a supervisor. 119 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:45,900 In a guest house, the supervisor should have a minimum qualification of a B.A. 120 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,000 And without a B.A.? - You cannot earn anything. 121 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,000 How much do you earn in the guest house? 122 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:57,300 We earn Rs. 4200 per month. 123 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,900 How do you manage? What is your rent? 124 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:08,800 Rs 1400 - Rs.1500 for a room. Minimum. 125 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:15,300 What other expenses do you have? 126 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:20,900 If you live alone, it is very hard. I have taken another person in my room. 127 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,600 So the rent is reduced to Rs. 700 - Rs. 800. 128 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:32,000 If you take one more person, it becomes even less. 129 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:38,100 Your parents lived in the same village as you? 130 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Yes, in the same village. If you have the one home why should they go to another village. 131 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,500 How long do you want to stay in the city? 132 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,600 I have come here for many days - not a lifetime. 133 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:58,900 After living here for a year or so, I will go back to my village, and live with my parents. 134 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,600 Then I will come here again for 6 months - 1 year. 135 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:06,700 But we don't want to stay here permanently. 136 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:15,500 But you have this limitation - you cannot get a job in the village. How can you go home? 137 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,500 We can get a job in the village. 138 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:24,400 Only for what we earn Rs. 10,000 here, in the village we can get Rs. 3,000 at most. 139 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:29,300 Rs 3,000 is also difficult. 140 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,700 Nazrul ist Muslim, Lochnan ist Hindu. Could you also be friends in the village? 141 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:40,700 We are friends, but people who are not friends think "this person should not talk to me, should not touch me". 142 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,600 "It is not good to meet with them". They think like this in the village. 143 00:10:50,900 --> 00:10:55,300 It is less here. It does not work like that here. Here the friendship works. 144 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,900 Like in the village, if I go to somebody's house they stop me. 145 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,700 They say, "Don't come in, don't touch me". It happens a lot even today. 146 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,800 We - one of us is a Hindu, the other is a Muslim, but we are close friends. 147 00:11:09,900 --> 00:11:15,300 But in the village - its not so in my house, but I have sometimes seen in some houses, 148 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,800 when a Muslim friend comes into a Hindu's house, they think it is not correct. 149 00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:26,300 I have no problems with it, but some older people still think it is not right. 150 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:32,800 But my family and my parents never think like this. 151 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:38,200 I think differently. He is a good friend of mine - that's what I think.